Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang There's just enough wiggle room that you can pull up on the pickguard so you can pull it back and clear the bridge, without issue. There are four input modes for overhang. 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. 3. I want to replace it with a Warmoth P-style neck. More Info. You could also have a bit of fretboard overhang to hide the repair you will do. The addition of having better control over some of the other parameters is nice - adjustable fretboard overhang beyond the 24th fret is handy, as is the string spacing and fretboard edge overhang functions. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tuners 2-3/16" (55. All kinds of materials are used for this purpose. 125" in either sides. It is usually referred to as a feature. I didn't. PG Custom Guitars is located in the South East of England. trock. Your best bet is like-for-like - another Starcaster neck. I found a new Fender Player neck, but it interestingly seems slightly shorter than the original. Remove the tape layers from the 5th fret. The neck fits in the pocket the same way and the nut is the same distance from the bridge. I'm pretty sure the majority of strats don't have this, my MIM strat's board is flush with the rest of neck pocket. Teles have squared ends and wider necks than strats, while strats have curved, rounded. It's an aftermarket pearloid w/b/w pickguard and a maple/ebony standard thin neck on a USA Fender body. . Our guitars are created to sound, feel and look incredible. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. The heat will soften the glue and the pressure willallow the fretboard and neck to slide over each other a little bit to realign under the pressure. CryptoIf its a standard Strat pickguard, then yeah there will be issues. My Warmoth pro neck fit just perfect. If you want to see how it looks with 21 frets, you can do an old trick for removing necks on acoustic. Then I repeated this entire procedure near the bridge, since my strings are spaced at equal spaces at BOTH the nut and the bridge. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangIf the fretboard overhang was tight, you'd risk cracking a stiff pickguard, or possibly even break off that last fret if you pulled up too hard, and tightening the neck to the body can actually put stress here. 75". 608. Tweedledee. My son and I are building a guitar for him for his High School senior project. There also are rippled areas along the fretboard edges where they meet the top, on my single-cut and double-cut guitars as well. 5 radius. ) Last edited: Feb 27, 2014. The addition of having better control over some of the other parameters is nice - adjustable fretboard overhang beyond the 24th fret is handy, as is the string spacing and fretboard edge overhang functions. Your best bet is like-for-like - another Starcaster neck. Likewise, the Saddles need to be closer to the nut for shorter scale. However, without the overhang, it may be difficult to adjust the saddles enough to get proper intonation. "," (Please note, in FretFind the first string is shown on the far right "," where the high E string would be on a typical right-handed guitar. I. NO overhang 4. Bolts on the same and intonates properly. Close to Los Angeles, CA. Starcasters (Squier and Fender) have 22-fret necks with no overhang (that is, the 22nd fret is on the fretboard proper, not on an overhang off the end - see top pic below). high-quality maple neck, delicate and unique. this guitar neck is compatible for fender st-style electric guitar neck replacement. . Another twist: FretFind 2D also allows you to set different overhang values for the "first" and "last" string and/or the nut and bridge. As to overhang, I usually cut the slots as far as the strings, so the fretboard overhang is the non-cut portion. Builder: Valenti Basses. number of strings = 4. A Warmoth is based on vintage Fender specs and a 21 fret neck, a 22 fret version has a fretboard overhang. Please visit FretFind 2D . The 720 mod will get rid of that gap if it's going to bother you, and shouldn't affect your bridge choice unless you're going to use something unusually. I've been building the DM-1F and I'm concerned the gap between the over hang of the fretboard at the neck joint and the body of the guitar is too large. Probably. You can do the metric equivelents. 5" scale guitars, but find that 24. Hold the fine-tooth flat file against the side of the fretboard and gently drag the file from the first fret down to the last fret ( Photo 4 ). On a 4 string body, I have a hard enough time reaching the 21st fret overhang. So the bridge will have to move further away from the neck to maintain the scale length, by half the distance of fret 21 to fret 22. My 2¢. 5 - 27" scale with a fretboard overhang of . Display results as threads22-fret overhang necks are all headstock-adjust truss rods AFAIK. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. A 1/8" (3mm) space between the fretboard overhang and the top of the body leaves enough room for a standard thickness pickguard. You should, however, keep in mind that if the fretboard overhangs its heel in this case, you’ll need to cut some space between the pickguard and the fretboard in order to get it to fit. #4. CryptoSeem cool, and I like the look. 83" at the first fret , . The pickguard slipped under the 22nd fret overhang without any modification. If the neck has a fretboard overhang it will cover the gap. However, if you want to use a 24. If I account for fretboard overhang and pickup rings how far sh. New media New comments Search media. Ive heard others mention usa necks. At the age of 69, and with self-isolation a reality, I decided to fulfill a long-cherished dream and build a 1965-era Strat. CryptoOn my Warmoth Jazz, the neck pickup holds it in place, and the fretboard extension holds it down pretty well. The heal pocket measures 3 1/4 by 2 1/4 by 3/4 inches deep. The generated Fretboard will be placed with the Bridge center in the origin and along the World X axis, as you would. So you get a strat with 24 frets that you can actually reach (instead of that annoying fretboard overhang like Warmoth). 125" in either sides. If the neck thickness or the rout is different, you may have to make some adjustment to them. Rosewood has a warmer, darker tone. 090 thick. I'm not sure what's going on with the overhang but I did place the centerline of the fretboard on the centerline of the guitar at the heel block and the center of the truss rod. Now just run the whole jig past your flush trim bit. It features a maple fretboard with abalone dots, bone nut, and high gloss headstock. Our "720 Mod" lowers the floor of a standard neck pocket from . The 550 has a much larger contact area at the neck to body joint, even more so than the originals because there's no fretboard overhang -- it's built like the AANJ neck -- solid right to the end. The filed bits to fit in the pocket would sit below this overhang. The gap between the neck and body. Lonestar Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fingerboard overhang (21 fret version is compatible with Warmoth parts) Nashville Tele® - 22 fret neck with no fingerboard overhang. $69. 2. "Epiphone" is an important detail here as they're gonna have a bolt-on neck where a standard. However, he is talking about putting a 21 fret neck where there was a 22 fret neck before, so there may not have been an overhang on it because the guitar was produced with a 22 fret neck, and would likely have the bridge placed accordingly. That’s quite different than a bridge pickup, I consider. Staten Island NYC. The 720 Mod is available on rear-routed bodies only. 83" at the first fret , . 1. In my opinion, the Jazz is also a better sounding and better looking bass as well. I just don't want to screw things up any worse. EDIT - oops, sorry, I didn't read properly and didn't realise the Pacifica had a 22 fret. Fretboard Radius: 12” Tuners: 2+2 Sperzel Locking. 82DeanZ, you are correct that if it is an overhang that it would likely work. So, we have a 1. There are four input modes for overhang. If you want to see how it looks with 21 frets, you can do an old trick for removing necks on acoustic. Do I: a) Shim the neck somehow b) File away the pickguard under the overhang (no idea the best way to do this) c) File. So the fact that your 22-fret neck does not appear to have a headstock truss rod adjustment suggests it's not an overhang neck, and may. I can see that the standard 25. 1,649 206. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. Once that's done, I do the touchup with the same needle files that I mentioned above. Not that it matters, but G&L's necks are built to the end of the fretboard as opposed to the fretboard extension/overhang found on Fender's neck and most Fender-style guitars. Joined Sep 19, 2016 Messages 627 Reaction score 538. Fits Tele style bodies Specs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck 22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang 9. Joined Jun 4, 2005 Messages 704 Reaction score 712 Location Ventura, CA. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance,. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. If it does this with no screws there are limited reasons it could be happening. When Scale changes, The frets become closer together or farther apart. Plus we will add a heel and drill and tap it to accept a threaded rod that will be tightened against the heel trapping the front side of the box and continue through and ou the back to create a truss that will counteract string. 09375 inches, but for all I know that's only appropriate for guitar. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. 83" at the first fret , . Building my first guitar, I glued the neck 0,5mm too far. You do need the fretboard overhang like a strat but that's no biggie as well. pretty certain that they meant just a neck pocket wifth shim to have a standard neck fit. 2: that seems like a lot to me as well, but I don't have enough experience with. Building my first guitar, I glued the neck 0,5mm too far. if the Tele's neck pickup is mounted to the body it will be a bear to remove the pickguard to adjust the pickup unless you increase the size of the neck cutout on the pickguard because of the overhang at the end of the fretboard. Fat Tele® - 22 fret neck with no fingerboard overhang. 81" at the first fret , . The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. So I opted for a new neck instead of a regretting. 0″ thick neck. . Quilted maple top. Prepare to Remove the Fretboard. Search titles only By: Search Advanced search…Posted January 19, 2005. Well, a few months ago, I happened to notice that there is quite a gap between the fretboard overhang and the pickguard, which my other Strats don't have. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tuners 2-3/16" (55. Medium Jumbo Wide (6150)Solidbody Guitar and Bass Chat; Existing user? Sign In Sign Up; Home; Forums . Fretboard edges and fret ends were professionally rolled so the edges are nice and smooth!Search titles only; Posted by Member: Separate names with a comma. This neck fits most Strat® style guitar except below: Roadhouse Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhang. Depending on the neck cost, I'm assuming my overall expenditure on the project would be in between $1300-1500 USD. I had to file the pickguard back out of the way. On a 4 string body, I have a hard enough time reaching the 21st fret overhang. Somehow the neck shifted in the pocket and I didn't notice it due to the fretboard overhang. Messages 1,565. The large file stays over the finish and doesn't damage it at all, but takes the fret ends down nicely. 5mm + 19mm neck thickness = 25. I agree with @BeeTL above that you'll probably get a natural 23 frets in that space, and you can do a slight fretboard overhang to give you your 24th fret. Lemon oil for the fretboard, which is a very nice Rosewood. Then proceed to the dovetail joint itself. Squared fretboard overhang or rounded? optofonik Apr 13, 2020 optofonik Squier-holic May 18, 2016 1,313 Somewhere, Wonderful Apr 13, 2020 #1 I don't think I've. Or, you could use standard nut spacing, and only you'll know that the Low E string has a bit less overhang than the right, which will be imperceptible most likely. jazz Bass 74. Has anyone built this kit? And could someone measure the distance from the bottom of the fretboard overhang and the guitar body? Mine seems extreme. But if I saw one with that much space, I'd have to wonder if the neck is original to the body, and if the body is full-thickness (or has a more shallow neck pocket). It is fairly easy to do with the right tools. I’m looking for a 20 fretter, I like the older 5 inline Jazz necks, have one on my jazz build, that bass sounds incredible. Fretboard edges and fret ends were professionally rolled so the edges are nice and smooth!Search titles only; Posted by Member: Separate names with a comma. Like i said most Ebay cheapos that i saw had Fender shaped headstocks and don't come with tuners and none had the fretboard overhang. First string fretboard overhang at the nut; First string fretboard overhang at the bridge; Fretboard placement location (you can pick a point where you want your fretboard drawn, or simple press ENTER to default to the Origin. Thing is, this neck with it's extra fret doesn't have a fretboard overhang, the heel is deeper. Most guitars these days fall somewhere between 12 and 17 inch radii. Feb 1, 2019 #5. 720 Mod. Because an overhang doesn't allow clear access to a heel truss rod nut. I got nothing else. If I keep this kit I'll have to glue a scrap of "mahogany" under the area of the fretboard where it's just hanging out there. Standard Fender specs only allow for 20 frets, unless a fretboard overhang is present. (in fact it's the same on a strat, the pickguard extends there as well, so the 22nd fret alos overhangs on the pickguard as well. Joined Apr 29, 2003 Posts 2,637 Location Canada-Windsor-Ont. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm peg holes for modern tunersBusiness, Economics, and Finance. The neck pictured is the exact neck you will receive. This is an excellent idea, IMHO. I can remove the pickguard without unbolting the neck. By far the most common pickguard thicknesses are either . Also, the heel looks long enough that if I cut. The fretboard overhang is the distance from the center of outer strings to edge of nut or bridge. The former offers possibilities, the latter does not. The fingerboard, or fretboard, is the face of the neck where your fingers work their bass playing magic. Let the side of the fretboard overhang the edge just a little bit. Retighten the neck screws. Fretboard Overhang. 25. There is insufficient adjustment at the bridge to compensate for the reduction of the 12th fret. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. To maintain comfortable playability, it’s advisable to select a replacement neck with a fretboard radius that matches the original neck or is compatible with your playing style. Here's an thread where someone made their own body for a Musikraft neck. I like to see about . But, on necks with 22 or less frets, the neck PU is placed on the octave harmonic. About This Listing. Measurements are. Paper, sand paper, thin metal sheet, carton…. First guitar build, first neck build. Empty any old water out of the iron and add fresh water. 105”) Heel Pocket: Fender Style (5/8” deep, 2. We need to raise that fretboard up 3/8″, so we reduce our too-deep 1. 070”, 0. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. With these fretboard overhangs it's also important that you use pickguards that are standard Fender thickness. It has evidence of smoke damage, and repairs include: Neck reset (was set low on bass side), Replaced bridge plate, two spruce patches each on treble and bass side of X brace, 3 cleats to rear of sound hole, long rectangular patch underneath fretboard overhang, 5 repaired top cracks from bridge to back, two repaired top cracks on either side of. We need to raise that fretboard up 3/8″, so we reduce our too-deep 1. Rear Natural Clear body. There are four input modes for overhang. Typical Fender specs are a 1" thick neck ( top of fretboard to bottom of heel) in a 5/8" deep rout. 5-3mmEnter fretboard length: Enter string to string width at nut: Enter string to string width at bridge: Enter fretboard overhang: Enter number of musical tones per octave: Enter. It's that the new neck sits lower in the pocket than the old one did. I did not realize the fretboard overhang prevents installing/removing an assembled pickguard unless the neck is substantially loosened. Feb 2, 2001. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. May 18, 2016. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangPosted by u/wies5 - 4 votes and 3 commentsEpiphone Les Pauls are popular with players at all levels, from beginners to budget-conscious pros—and with good reason. Hey @JACK G Merry Christmas! Yes, my SE serial CA has 22 frets and no skunk stripe. Standard Neck Pocket Depth. This bass is great but the action gets quite high above the 10th fret. 75" Scale conversion neck but I can't find anything about the size of the fretboard overhang, which could be an issue for me. (Coming soon! Photos to show fretboard overhangs and the movement of neck pickup routes to compensate for increased fingerboard overhang on 24 fret necks. 25") based on the bridges You want equal string spacing Fretboard overhang is the amount of space from the middle of the string to the edge of the fretboard, again the last String is the low string and the first String is the high string . The correct neck for my kit has approximately 7/16" of fretboard overhang. The fretboard overhang must rest above the body so the pickgaurd can fit underneath it. Clamp it well so you don't have an unsightly glue. You can do the metric equivelents. #14 · Mar 7, 2017. Silver Supporting Member. " Might need to adjust the heel area of the neck or neck pocket, too. 625" on the body, and standard Fender neck heel height is is . If you'd like a fretboard overhang, we'll have to do a headstock adjust rod. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. 00. There is a 3/16" (4. Clamp it well so you don't have an unsightly glue. Switching from a 20 to 21 fret neck usually requires no modification to the bass. If you run into that pickguard issue in the future, you can also trim the underside of the fretboard overhang. May 8. Guitars: electric, acoustic; accessories; and other musical instruments. And, he demonstrates how he deals with the fretboard overhang of the tenon to ensure a uniform route. On 24 fret necks it has to be moved back toward the bridge some (taking it off. Thankfully, the fretboard overhang covers up my rough work there. Lots of different heel dimensions, fretboard overhang and fret count will affect the intonation since your bridge mounts are predrilled. When I mentioned to the luthier about having him round it he said it wasn't necessary but would do it. 625" to . As long as the scale length is 25. . Its a fretboard overhang, totally normal. Joined Nov 19, 2009 Messages 5,670 Points 38. #1. Search titles only; Posted by Member: Separate names with a comma. Fretboard extends 1/4" beyond neck heel. Either the heel of the neck get trimmed down or the pocket in the body has to be expanded. Will. When the neck and body are assembled, there is a small space between then end of the fretboard (the last fret near the body). Align the bridge with the mounting and string holes. 5 string necks: Warmoth 22-fret necks (no fretboard overhang) are direct replacements for Fender 22-fret necks. Vibrato bridges. 21 inch Fretboard. Your example doesn't look well-crafted, but I don't know if that's typical for Epiphone. Tape the two pages together. You first need to unglue the upper part of the fretboard that hangs out onto the soundboard by the soundhole. Feb 27, 2014 #25 monty said: Thanks Rick but a quick question. Builder: Valenti Basses. 125 I guess my main issue lies with the string spacing at the nut and bridge. Or just shimmy the nut over towards the high E to even. For the math-impaired: 1. Tele specsI have a 2011 Fender Cabronita MIA body with TV Jones T Armond’s, and Bigsby. Are there any guidelines or rules of thumb for "fretboard overhang"? Default for the FretFind tool is 0. Contact me if you want something specific, otherwise I'll give you a heel adjust spokewheel or hex nut rod. . Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. The pickup is deep and deeper than eg Bartolini or KA floaters thus limiting movement possibilities. The pickguard certainly looks homemade. I like to experiment with different strings and that's just too much hassle with that fretboard overhang. But now I have a flat fretboard again and the bass plays great and hopefully will for another 2-3 years at least. If you put a longer scale neck on a short scale body, the bridge simply must move away from the nut. This is from a 2000-2001 catalog. M. Is it just so that there isn't a gap under the fretboard overhang if you have a 22 fret board and no scratchplate? Forums. String width (space between first and last string) at nut is 1. Big Apple Strat® - 22 fret neck with no fretboard overhangThe pickguard will cover the holes left by the hole. 118Squier P bass neck join Does the fret board go over the pick guard? Or is the pick guard fitted around it? Anyone have an answer to this? Really appreciate some shared knowledge. 085”, 0. On the eBay guitar it's square, like a Tele's. Line up the two lines. If we routed a 1. From what I know there are 21 and 22 fret Strat necks. That's the purpose of the overhang, so any 21 or 22 fret neck with the overhang will fit any body without having to change the neck pocket or bridge placement. 5-3mm . There are a few Squiers and Fenders that have 22 frets without the overhang, and. Fretboard placement lines up with the lines up with the headstock transition of the neck. Fits Tele style bodiesSpecs: Paddle headstock Roasted maple neck22 jumbo frets, with fretboard overhang9. If you like that position, it might work well. On a Dlx 5 string,. Here is a picture of a warmoth conversion neck. Good to know. 2. Mill your lumber. . 30. CryptoI have an Yngwie Signature Strat (borrowed off a mate XD) Anyway, all I can say is that they are EXTREMELY different to normal frets. Specs: Model: A2. Last edited: Feb 1, 2019. Black dot inlay on fretboard; Headstock hole diameter for machine head: 10mm 4mm Allen wrench provided for truss rod adjustment at the headstock. Failure to do so could result in separation of the fretboard from the neck and is not covered under warranty. It is a USACG Mustang neck. Kiesel/Hipshot trem. 81" at the first fret , . Also vintage tinted pup covers and volume and tone knobs, string trees and misc screws! Keeping the original pups for the. Starcasters (Squier and Fender) have 22-fret necks with no overhang (that is, the 22nd fret is on the fretboard proper, not on an overhang off the end - see top pic below). Though it has the same number of frets, fret 22 is on a fretboard overhang. prorecordingworkshop. You may have to do this a number of times. I asked earlier in the thread is the overhang of the fretboard hitting the pickguard or anything? You should have enough clearance you can see light under the overhang when looked at from the side. . 22 jumbo frets, fretboard overhang 9. Then practice *edit: I forgot you had that Peavey. 83" at the first fret , . 75'' (thats a good thickness for a neck heel), and the. 1 mm action at 12th is a bit high. Dec 25, 2015 #5. Direct typing of inches or metric is a nice feature too, without having to switch between the two measurement systems globally. Pull the 22nd fret, cut off the fretboard end through the fret slot and see if you like it on your guitar. For fretboards with multiple scale lengths this is calculated as delta x distance, distance measured along a line drawn perpendicular to the neck's midline. - Pickup wiring would need to be routed differently. IOW, if you conventionally and properly lay out a fanned fretboard by the two outer. I tried to put a neck on it already however, The neck is just slightly off at the bottom left portion of the heel and slightly crooked. Mildew Jones. fretboard overhang = 2 mm (equal) calculation method = 12 (equal root 2) number of frets = 15. It's normal and fine and simply a design choice for the model of guitar you purchased. Display results as threadsHey, I am the (mostly) happy new owner of a beautiful '97 Std Ren 4 fretless. Like this:. how to use metric units for the spacing of the top and bottom strings to the fretboard/neck edge. That's the purpose of the overhang, so any 21 or 22 fret neck with the overhang will fit any body without having to change the neck pocket or bridge placement. Continue the pattern up and down the fretboard, naming each chord as you play it, and do the same with an E chord,. Measurements are ONLY to the e’ (High e) string. It is usually referred to as a feature. 5 radius fretboard approx . Only used one is in Italy, too much $ with shipping. Post Oct 04, 2020 #125 2020-10-05T03:52. 625" to . There are actually full 22 fret necks that are not compatible with a traditional 21 fret neck pocket placement that would work with a 21 fret or 22 fret overhang. Because I wanted to keep the option of a fully hollow version in future, the ABR-1 seemed like a good choice - I like the way they can energise a carved top. Newer Than: Search this thread only; Search this forum only. String width at the nut looks to be about 5" (127mm) String width at bridge looks to be about 180mm (7. 88" at the 12th Bone Nut Dual action truss rod adjustment at the headstock &10mm peg holes for modern tuners. 2. Up-bow when its unstrung is also a little strange, but its how it plays when strung that matters. Although the neck has its final shape, the fretboard is slightly overhanging. To get 21 with no overhang, the neck must be made longer. 82DeanZ, you are correct that if it is an overhang that it would likely work. The fretboard is slightly easier to model, especially since we now have the drawings from the beginning. Crypto1. It's just *barely* too tight, so the action is *slightly* affected. Finally, I never saw an aesthetically perfect finish below the fretboard overhang of a Gibson archtop. That is a 21 fret neck with no overhang, which means that it won't work with the standard bridge placement of a P bass. Even changing only the fretboard on your guitar neck is possible. 92" at the 12th Bone Nut Duel action truss rod adjustment at the headstock 10mm pe. for the 1/16th of an inch difference you don't even need to take the frets out. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. 25in) solid. Preheat the iron and make sure it's on the steam setting. I edited my post.